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August 31, 2005

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Dave Schuler

How about looting a hospital? Or a pharmacy?

Vavoom

Well, a mob mentality doesn't exactly contribute to a safe environment. Yes, people are often hurt during such looting. Stealing a loaf of bread is perfectly fine if it's a matter of life or death, just ask Jean Valjean. It's discouraged so that mobs don't form and more people aren't hurt. Besides, how many of those looting had an opportunity to stock up on goods they needed before hand? As for the poor, foodbanks open their doors before hurricanes to ensure that those staying have the resources needed to survive.

Daniel

Dave,

I'm not condoning what happened at the Children's Hospital, and I wouldn't condone some junkies looting a pharmacy for the Percodan. However, let's say I have a condition that requires that I take a prescription daily in order to survive and that prescription is flooting somewhere down the sewer. In that case, you better believe that I will be busting through a pharmacy.

The people who are looting electronics stores or stocking up on Nikes won't be able to do anything with their loot. If they leave, they leave the stuff. If they stay, they die. Either way Fortuna will deal with them.

I know how this looks "to the rest of the world" but aren't we used to this by now? Don't you think there was rampant looting in Banda Aceh or on Phuket?

When people are desperate, a lot of ugliness comes out. Shooting a cop for doing his job, of course, is reprehensible and should be met with swift, if not instant, justice. Shooting somebody for stealing a loaf of bread is a little too les Miserables for my taste.

I understand the rationale behind "looters will be shot." But it's my impression that in order to enforce that, you have to have enough officers present.

Daniel

Wow,

I guess I'm alone on this one. You know how much I respect both of you, and I take your arguments to heart. And yet...

Maybe it's my old bleedin' heart but I still believe that there are some creatures who are not equipped to deal with these kinds of things. As for stocking up, when your house is under water, there ain't no stocking up.

Michael Heinz

I agree with you - the looting doesn't bother me except as a sign of stupidity but the other behavior, the reports of rape and violence - and the utterly astonishing behavior of shooting at rescue choppers - make me wonder if we're going to have to send in gunships to escort them.

Mark

There is a huge difference in regards to someone helping themselves to a loaf of bread in order to eat but to loot items such as guns, valuables, or any other objects that have nothing to do in regards to survival not to mention "owned by others" is certainly a crime and engaging in this folly during a disaster of this magnitude then these thugs deserve to be shot dead and their bodies burned. I cannot believe how some people regard this as some "who cares??".. thingy. If it was your home, your store, your stuFF, would you just say..."oh well..they had to vent their frustration"...there was a day when if you stole another man's horse you became a tree ornament...I can guarantee that if some "frustrated souL" in the event a "Katrina" happens in my neighborhood, who decides to take my tv.. you wont see that guy on the evening news trust me. Thugs are thugs and I hate'em with a passion.

withheld

If I was unfortunate to be stuck there, I would find/acquire(loot) food and water. Right behind that would be guns as a means to provide security for myself, family, neighborhood, etc.

DC

There is a huge difference in regards to someone helping themselves to a loaf of bread in order to eat but to loot items such as guns, valuables, or any other objects that have nothing to do in regards to survival not to mention "owned by others" is certainly a crime and engaging in this folly during a disaster of this magnitude then these thugs deserve to be shot dead and their bodies burned.

Guns not important for survival? You are truly stupid...

.........no one needs guns.....

.....only the police should have guns.....

Sure....Wish you were there

MS

Cant help but notice that may be this "looting after a tragedy" is more of an American Way Of Life. There was massive flooding in Bombay a month ago, and I dont recall a single incident of looting.

OMG

Who gives a damn what they steal as long as they don't shoot at rescue workers and troops in order to prolong their anarchic gold rush? Stock up on Nike shoes and jewerlery and get your butt out of there. Don't shoot at troops so they keep away while your go get some more stuff. Are we asking the troops and cops to be senstive and make a politically correct distincion between bread-stealer and pirates that are out for rape and plunder?

Michael

You guys all act like the looting going on is all or mostly for survival. Like most of it is "stealing stale bread and sour milk". My ass. Most of it is just greed and theft of items no one needs in such a situation. Looting shoes, clothes, electronics, appliances, etc etc.

It doesn't bother me though. That's simply what happens when no order is kept, when there are no consequences. Heck I'd probably do the same. I mean why wouldn't you? Ooooh, because it's wrong and immoral. Pshhh. Wake up to the real world and smell the coffee. Which by the way I looted from that Safeway over there.

Mark Brady

I found this because I was looking for reports of looting Phuket or Banda aceh (sp). You seem willing to conclude there was, but I never saw a single report of such. I agree that stealing food when you are hungry is less morally bankrupt than boosting a new cadillac from a dealership. I never saw pictures of people wheeling carts full sneakers or bags full of jewelry in Thailand. Maybe such riches don't exist in the rural areas of these impoverished countries, so the opportunity wasn't there, but there were well-off resort/beach towns involved.

i'm not claiming to be correct, i'm merely recounting my expereince.

David Erickson

It is very difficult for me to accept any form of stealing. The law say (not to mention centuries of laws) don't take what is not yours. I see no grey area there. Those of us who are exceptionally blessed have a responsibility to immediatly respond to those in need. The looting, most especially those who stole mountains of clothes (more than they would ever NEED) and electronics and guns and .... stole from all of us. The companies 'write off' the loss, the insurance companies compensate the companies, insurance premiums companies pay rise, product prices at those stores rise (mmmmmm is that inflation).

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