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Brian H

Re: the intrinsic value -- better, perhaps, that a bomber blow up in front of cops than on a subway in the middle of a tunnel. And one or two incidents would probably result in a policy of stand-back challenges followed by head shots in response to suspicious behaviour.

Daniel

Which, in my "insane" opinion, is as it should be.

BA

I thought of making a shirt that says "I don't consent to being bombed by a terrorist on my daily commute" and donating the proceeds to one of the services supporting our troops.

Maggie

And what happens when the "commuter" is told he/she cannot enter the subway because of their refusal...all they have to do is turn, walk down 10 blocks and board the train at the next station?

This procedure has a "huge" hole!

Older Bro

As my brother would tell you, I am a Liberal. I am very Liberal. I've been a member of the ACLU for several years. That said ...

I was watching the local news, which for me is NYC, and there was either Kelly or Bloomberg saying an example of the plan was to search every 25th (just to pick a number) person. I have no problem with this. It's being applied to everyone.

Later reports stated that if, during the searches, police found drugs or illegal firearms, arrests would be made. One interviewee stated that this shows that this shows that the searches were not solely being done to find terrorists. I thought the guy was an idiot. If the police find illegal material in the course of a legal search for something else, I think they are obligated to arrest the person.

However, I'm also not just going to just accept without question what the goverment is doing on anything just because they say, "Oh, we're doing it to fight this or to fight that." Too many on the Left go from questioning to obstructing, but there are too many on the Right seem willing to accept anything the government does.

Daniel

I don't accept that the government has a right to step on civil liberties. In this case, however, New York, along with other big targets, are faced with a bad situtation. You know that if there would be a bombing on a train that every "rights" group out there would be screaming bloody murder about "why didn't the police protect us?" I honestly don't see any unlawful search, here. The subway is a public utility and the government is charged with making it safe for all. Now, I actually think that contraband should maybe be confiscated, but not prosecuted. However, the law is against me, here. We have had drugs seized from the result of traffic violations for years, so if you head into the subway with a few eight-balls in your pocket, you really shouldn't be surprised if you get nabbed.

Of course, now we'll get somebody saying that this is another example of government impeding small business. Just wait.

Maggie-
Yes, lots of holes, but I wouldn't want to trying to figure out what to do next.

Tommy

The upshoot of the idiocy is that it makes it easy for NYPD to know who to search ;-)

like your slogan, and BA's

If I wasn't clear, that should be "I like your slogan[s]...", not a comparison of said slogans to the aforementioned idiocy.

Maggie

...."I wouldn't want to trying to figure out what to do next."


Well, Daniel, one would think going to experts for advice might be prudent....THE ISRAELIS.

Daniel

Sorry, not "trying." "try"

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